The Paladin Situation.

[sam.freak]

Ok guys, you're seeing what's going on. We've got a total of four (4) active Pallies atm.

This sucks.

We need at least 3 Pallies on any decent 40 man raid for buffing. 4 or 5 if possible. It's great that at least Grimetide and Sourcream have the balls to switch to their alts for MC (Hevestis and Icecow respectively, mad props to them), and we've got Kippensoep and Carnal coming up (Gwaihir and a totally new player, grats to you).

Those two are currently the only reason that keeps me from spamming the recruiting and general channels in the cities.

Since pallies are so totally underrepresented in this guild I will most likely do that eventually. I want to have at least 10 BWL-capable Pallies when I finish recruiting.

Discuss.

[Sateenlaula]

you want me to make a palladin?
my druid is already level 9, so it won't be a prob
to have a palladin level 60 in notime

[SSX-Ava]

Better to have few nice palas then mass recruit aload of ass hats, just so you can raid more efficiently.
I'd hate to see the LFpalas spam in general and I hope to god you were joking when you wrote that dude.
This thread could be usefull in triggering guildies friends who are palas into applying . Now everyone knows the situation.

[Linkie]

if needed ill start a Pala alt and drop my druid and mage alt ^^

[Anubis]

Tell me you do not think spamming LFG to recruit is EVER a good way to recruit for us, regardless of whether there's a shortage of a class

[Dodotorpedo]

Metroid (Nomex) has a lvl 30ish paladin and plans to level him to 60, there is still hope! :P

[Misspain]

Maybe i can help a bit here. Maybe you've seen grostag in the guild who has been inactive for like months now :P Well, he's actually one of Deo's numerous alts. Of course as it is, they can't be online at the same time, but i can transfer him to my account, and thus we can have a (imba ) priest and pally at the same time. Obviously the transfers on this server gotta come up first, and the pally needs some work on his gear and prequests, but at least he is 60 already and holy/prot specced. I just need to clean up the rust on his armour a little and brush up my healing and he should be fine. Well those are my thoughts anyway, but as I said already it depends on when the transfers are enabled.

[Misspain]

Maybe i can help a bit here. Maybe you've seen grostag in the guild who has been inactive for like months now (lets face it pallies are boring ). Well, he's actually one of Deo's numerous alts. Of course as it is, they can't be online at the same time, but i can transfer him to my account, and thus we can have either a priest/pala or priest/mage combo. Obviously the transfers on this server gotta come up first, and the pally needs some work on his gear and prequests, but at least he is 60 already and holy/prot specced. I just need to clean up the rust on his armour a little and brush up my healing and he should be fine. Well those are my thoughts anyway, but as I said already it depends on when the transfers are enabled.

[Integra]

i have a lvl 48 pala now and i kanda wanna take that as my new main for a wile when its lvl 60(except naxx/AQ40). my pally is mainly holy with seal of command. planning taking 31-7-13.after campzone i still have a week off so will try to get it 60.

[sam.freak]

Yeah, Pallies are boring.

Especially if they're holy/prot specced. Like me. It's a stupid spec.

You can ask the guys that went to BG's with me the last week how that usually works out.

Oh, and yeah I wouldn't recruit any asshats. But I can guarantee you one thing: If you are a new paladin going to MC/BWL you won't have to fight for loot all the way to Tier 2. You're going to fall into a DKP hole so deep you'll have to raid for 2 years just to get back to zero.

Tell me you do not think spamming LFG to recruit is EVER a good way to recruit for us, regardless of whether there's a shortage of a class

Yes. This doesn't change the fact that we did this before, and goddamnit if it's necessary I will do it again.

[Eolas]

Arelgi was my first character and he is a lvl 60 pala - undergeared but should cope with mc - i had brought him once to bwl when i first entered SSX last January and was there when SSX conquered Chrommie for the first time. In extreme situations i.e. when a raid wont be happening cause of lack of palas / healers please ask me to come with Arelgi.

[SSX-Ava]

Tell me you do not think spamming LFG to recruit is EVER a good way to recruit for us, regardless of whether there's a shortage of a class

Yes. This doesn't change the fact that we did this before, and goddamnit if it's necessary I will do it again.

Please enlighten me to as which paladins in the SSX were ever recruited this way? I can only recall 1 or 2 paladins being sent my way by yourself and they were turned down.
I do disagree with this totaly and I won't support it in any way shape of form. Recruiting random people to further the guilds raids is totaly against what I for one would hope this guild stood for.
The question is do people want SSX=LF=PALADINS being yelled in
Ironforge ? Or are we going to continue with the community base we have built up.

[Dodotorpedo]

Tell me you do not think spamming LFG to recruit is EVER a good way to recruit for us, regardless of whether there's a shortage of a class

Yes. This doesn't change the fact that we did this before, and goddamnit if it's necessary I will do it again.

Zomg we did this before?

IMO it's probably better to stop raiding then to pick up random people for SSX.

[Plovske]

Tell me you do not think spamming LFG to recruit is EVER a good way to recruit for us, regardless of whether there's a shortage of a class

Yes. This doesn't change the fact that we did this before, and goddamnit if it's necessary I will do it again.

Zomg we did this before?

IMO it's probably better to stop raiding then to pick up random people for SSX.

indeed

[M.Steiner]

I should hope non of our groups go about recruiting like that, we never have and i hope you don't start to...
If you don't have enough pallys to raid then don't. I really think its a bad idea to go actively looking for people of a certain class and recruiting them whether they are nice people or not just so you can do some damned instance, jesus christ.

The only reason the guild has raided is because we could, we had the people and people enjoyed it. Not because we had to and couldn't live without it..Why friggin force it by recruiting like that?

Basically what Anny, Ava, Dodo and Plov have said.

[base]

I think kane is just voicing his frustration, he's not gonna go out and spam guild invites to random level 60 paladins.

I was going to wait until the expansion before I rolled a paladin, but my human one is level 9 now, which, is not very useful at all

Don't worry, things will turn around.

[Galador]

Clearly Kane is venting his frustration and I understand perfectly what he is trying to say.

Whilst recruiting blindly is never an option for a guild like ours, we have people who are valid trying to enter the guild that have been waiting for some time now and are still waiting. Now I do understand that the recruitment process has just receieved a major overhaul and that all mods are super mega busy esp with the new changes and all but maybe we should give our recruitment process a slight push.

That said, I am happy that we have in our guild people that are ready to go to an instance with an alt that maybe isnt their fave toon just to aid the guild progress and function better - thanks for not being selfish guys.

And Kane thanks for having the guts to bring this up in the forums and make everyone aware of what the situation currently is. I am sure that we will find a suitable solution eventually.

[Eolas]

As I said I won't mind occasionaly coming to raid on my pally (note occasionaly ) but Kane I need to whisp you abut respeccing and also I need you to update me on the recent must have mods and tricks of the trade as I never actually heavily raided with this character. Don't lose heart Kane - we all lav ya and support ya!

[sam.freak]

Please enlighten me to as which paladins in the SSX were ever recruited this way? I can only recall 1 or 2 paladins being sent my way by yourself and they were turned down.

Oh, I'm not talking about Paladins specifically. But I distinctly remember SSX recruiting in IF, generally. This happened around may, june last year.

[QuantumDelta]

Yes. This doesn't change the fact that we did this before, and goddamnit if it's necessary I will do it again.

We never did this.

[SoulSeeker]

Sorry i've been busy ...summer etc also playing BF2,Red Orchestra, trying to get my vintage white strat sounding like hendrix lol( i wish).

Tbh since QD left the raiding forum section hasnt been used much which is a shame as QD put alot of work into it.I check it alot but theres not been a post since the 8th July so having not been in wow asmuch as normal i assumed there wasnt any raids.

[Dodotorpedo]

Sorry i've been busy ...summer etc also playing BF2,Red Orchestra, trying to get my vintage white strat sounding like hendrix lol( i wish).

Tbh since QD left the raiding forum section hasnt been used much which is a shame as QD put alot of work into it.I check it alot but theres not been a post since the 8th July so having not been in wow asmuch as normal i assumed there wasnt any raids.

It's been archived, we nolonger use it :P

[SoulSeeker]

/me goes back to smokin weed and trying to sound like hendrix............

[Sondemon]

I can tell you this, I will never let a person get into the guild cuz we need the class he's playing. Not as long as I have something to say about recruitment. If a person gets into the guild, it's because of who he or she is, how he or she is. The person!

Galador, you say recruitment is slow. Yes, it has been slow, we're working on it, I'm doing my best, it's not like I sit and do nothing about it. We've just started sorting it out, and we will handle every application soon.

Now, back to subject. We've got pallys in the guild, quite many are alts tho. And as I've told you Kane, I'll relog anytime you need me too, tho I still prefer playing on Chalan. Kindof like Mip said the other day, he enjoys playing his rogue to pvp etc, but he loves his hunter to damn much to ever stop playing with it. Same with me and my druid.

I don't really see this as a huge problem, we can pretty much always get a few pallys into each raid, this happens with every class. When I started, we were like 2-3 druids, and sometimes I was alone raiding. Now during the summer we're usually low on warlocks.

Just chill, wait and see, it's still summer afterall!

[base]

was worse with druids before you joined chalan :P you made one more to the total